It's great to see Convex creating a lot
It's great to see Convex creating a lot of content, but I feel like 80 percent of it is geared toward people who already know how to use Convex. It should be the other way around—you should focus more on beginner-friendly content to reach a wider audience. Sure, it might attract more free-tier users at first, but in the long run, it’ll be more beneficial. Just sharing my thoughts.
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Hey @Honey thanks for the feedback, im always flip flopping between doing content for existing users, introducing them to new and existing features, and doing content to attract new users (TOFU).
Its always a delicate balance but maybe im not getting it quite right?
What sort of "beginner focused" videos do you think would be good?
Getting started with React videos? Where I take you thought the getting started tutorials? What levevel should I pitch those at? Total programmer novice?
Im not trying to criticize, im genuinely interested to know, it seems like @Clever Tagline also 💯 'd your message so im keen to know too what you think we should create
great , i will share ideas as as well as feedback related to over docs and over use of convex in 2 to 3 days
okay awesome thanks! I am very much interested to hear what you think.
I am planning on doing a series of videos soon that basically just go through the tutorial content on the docs, maybe that will cover the basics?
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Convex provides you with a fully featured backend with cloud functions,
I’ll try to get some ideas together tomorrow
The "here's how I built this cool thing" videos are great, but I'd also love to see walkthroughs of more basic features/concepts. Just looking through the sidebar in the docs, a few examples from the Functions section would be:
* Internal functions
* Validation
* Error handling
* Bundling
* ...etc
The examples in the docs are okay sometimes, but other times it feels like they assume that the reader has a certain level of experience/skill. As a self-taught coder, I sometimes struggle to follow these written examples. Seeing a more in-depth walkthrough where someone goes into greater detail with more examples can help to clear up concepts that the written docs might gloss over.
Awesome thanks for that @Clever Tagline ! Thats very useful to hear.
What sort of length of videos would you like to see?
Would you like me to cover multiple topics in one video or try to keep it quite focused?
Lengthwise, maybe 5-7 minutes. Just long enough to provide decently thorough coverage of a given topic with a few examples of varying complexity.
I feel like focused videos would provide greater value and be easier to digest. For example, if I want to wrap my head around error handling techniques, it would be easiest if I can search the channel for "error handling" and find the one video that covers it (or multiple if follow-up videos are made later). If the same material is put into a longer video with other topics, it may not come up as easily in a search, plus it means hunting through the video for the desired content (yeah, bookmarks can help, but it's still extra work for the viewer).
Cool, good points thanks!
https://wool-postage-2f0.notion.site/Convex-Feedback-Video-Series-Ideas-21b20a4526ec80d2b3a0e81271533721
@mikeysee you can go through this
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Hey team, first off — I just want to say I really like Convex. It’s a solid product with a goated community (special shoutout to @erquhart for always being helpful 🙌). This message is just a mix of ideas and feedback that I think could help others get into Convex more easily, especially from a beginner’s perspective .
Thats fantastic feedback thanks! ill have a look through it soon!
hey just some quick feedback now I have had time to read it.
First, great idea about the getting started guides. Im definitely going to do some of those. It also makes logical sense to embed those videos at the top of the relevant page in the docs.
Now as for Auth, I totally agree our story there isnt great and I havent done a video on auth yet even tho its a very important topic because things have been a bit in flux. Shawn is currently working hard on a BetterAuth component which if all goes well may well become the defacto way to do auth on convex in the future.
So ye I hear you with the auth, hopefully its going to get better soon, I just am holding off on creating content for that right now as it may change soon.
Very good feedback on the docs structure, I too really like this part:
This could walk users through not just the how, but also the how to think when working with Convex for first time.We have this page: https://docs.convex.dev/understanding/zen which is apparently one of the most popular pages on the docs so we really should try to make it more visible earlier in the journey. Did you follow the tutorial btw? https://docs.convex.dev/tutorial/ I feel like it does a pretty good job at taking you through the basics but I agree it doesnt tach you the "way to think" when using convex.