I have a very stupid question: Is there
I have a very stupid question: Is there a way to programmatically create a user with password in convex?
ECan you give a little more context on your goal, might help
E(I'd also say this isn't a stupid question at all imo)
BSure, let me elaborate: I have a controlled / closed environment, meaning it's running on-premise. I want to use convex with convex-auth for authentication. Now I have set-up convex-saas locally with the password provider, but I have no way to create a user programmatically. Neither the tutorial for convex-auth nor any other source I found mentions how to create users with their passwords. I can let them sign up, which would probably work, but would not be viable for my solution since people would receive their logins by an administrator (me basically). There's no need for additional security measures or self-service in terms of resetting the passwords or emails.
BHope that's enough context, let me know if I should elaborate on any part 
EIt would take some working around. Have you considered having "sending them their login" being just instructions to sign up with their email address, but you check to ensure the email address is on a list of approved signup emails? Or do you specifically not want folks creating their own passwords and having actual auth
EYou could run the check via , and do any other mutations you might want for admin purposes https://labs.convex.dev/auth/advanced#controlling-user-creation-and-account-linking-behavior
Authentication library for your Convex backend
BSince it's a air-gapped environment, there's no way to send mails or access the internet. The only way to access the system is through https on this network. I specifically don't want users to create their own passwords yes 
EAh I see. Hmm
BI tried using insert into the collection but this way I don't get a password.
EYou could try calling the signin action server side, wrap it in your own function for provisioning users
Eeg.,
Eyou'd have to figure out the params to send. But if you have no email verification enabled, that might work
BThat's a great start, I'll dig into this . Thank you very much
. Thank you very muchEPlease update if you land on a solution! Might be helpful for others
BI tried running:
But this doesn't create anything and silently fails
But this doesn't create anything and silently fails
ENo errors in the convex logs?
EI'd start taking a look at the source to see what's expected: https://github.com/get-convex/convex-auth/blob/2f77702b0e42fa705dfe2af623494682e6a21b49/src/server/implementation/index.ts#L392
GitHub
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EThat's the signIn action
EOh, and turn on verbose logging as well
Ethat might fix the silent failure
E(or fix the silence, that is, maybe)
BI looked up the function signature and found that my parameters would match. I then signed up through the frontend to see what's happening in comparison to my action. So the arguments should be good as far as I see. I'm gonna look how to turn on verbose logging then
BAh, getting errors 
thanks for the hint
thanks for the hintBThat was it ...
BYou will never guess what the error was
BIt's "signUp" not "signup"
BThis one works flawlessly
. Thank you a thousand times @erquhart ! Do you have a patron / coffee page I can spend some coins on?ENope, this is just Convex community helping each other out 
EGlad it worked!
BNot without your help . This was my last blocker I believe. Thank you a lot!
. This was my last blocker I believe. Thank you a lot!