I'm so curious about how much data the

I'm so curious about how much data the UNDEFINED_PLACEHOLDER takes in all the apps combined

ari•3/14/25, 12:52 AM

Are you referring to the variable inside of the dashboard's source code? That value doesn't actually get stored in deployments, we use a string as a placeholder because

undefined

undefined

is not a valid Convex value

vOP•3/14/25, 1:16 AM

That makes more sense

vOP•3/14/25, 1:18 AM

So is just for transport only

vOP•3/14/25, 1:18 AM

I see

vOP•3/14/25, 1:19 AM

value === UNDEFINED_PLACEHOLDER ? undefined : value

ari•3/14/25, 1:19 AM

Yup, even though

undefined

undefined

isn't valid in convex, we still use it to represent the optional / unset value in the database.

vOP•3/14/25, 1:19 AM

Convex too cool

ari•3/14/25, 1:20 AM

https://github.com/get-convex/convex-backend/blob/main/npm-packages/system-udfs/convex/_system/frontend/patchDocumentsFields.ts

GitHub

convex-backend/npm-packages/system-udfs/convex/_system/frontend/pat...

The open-source reactive database for app developers - get-convex/convex-backend

vOP•3/14/25, 1:20 AM

I was wondering why it would be so long then again didn't see it on the rust size

ari•3/14/25, 1:20 AM

it's a bit unfortunate for you if you want to store the value via the dashboard

vOP•3/14/25, 1:21 AM

Right, if they manage to come up with that value sucks for them I guess

vOP•3/14/25, 1:21 AM

Is this just keyboard spam

vOP•3/14/25, 1:22 AM

It's a secret message

ari•3/14/25, 1:23 AM

I'm betting the developer that wrote that bit read from or something

vOP•3/14/25, 1:24 AM

I'll stick with the secret message option