On premise solution
Hey as in the title is this something that could be potentially offered or thoughts on?
We need an on premise solution for a few potential large customers of ours but love use convex cloud. I’d prefer to use convex but may need to switch databases for the on prem solution, but definitely don’t prefer this.
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hey! short answer is, not anytime soon if ever. really reasonable ask, and we've had some financial intuitions with serious regulatory requirements ask the same thing. but a supported on-prem model isn't something we're going to invest in any time soon. the closest we'll come to it is the open source backend we plan on releasing later this year, but it won't be a true on-prem offering because we won't be creating any kind of scale + support commercial relationship on top of it. it's provided strictly as-is
we plan in general on pursuing the snowflake relationship to all this regulatory stuff where we work hard to build the kind of controls, compliance, and reputation to win over most orgs eventually on the cloud product--fully understanding that make take years as it did for them. but a lot of what's going to make convex really special will be so, so difficult to replicate on prem and so I can't see us dividing our attention anytime soon to invest in a great version of that product
@Chad Maycumber anything that we could have done in the mean time to feel this is safe enough for this larger customer? more "bake time"? specific compliance check box? just curious to know if there was some bar that could have been hypothetically cleared that would have enabled this project to be on the cloud service
In short I'm not sure, but I doubt it. It seems like the customer (the government/they're contractors) are pretty deadset on leveraging an on prem solution. When do you peg the release of that? And if there's a possible "beta" I'll gladly be a geaniue pig. I'd love to avoid a re-factor/just take my changes with the self deployed backend for our on prem offering because I like convex so much, as a startup this is also a customer we can't really shy away because the size. We'll continue using the cloud for our hosted version.
I don't want to pin @james and @Indy on a timeline, b/c we haven't done our post 1.0 prioritization exercise, and we'll need to get a good estimation about the workstreams necessary to get the open source backend out the door. so unfortunately the truth is we don't know exactly yet, but we'll double back when we do.
In short I'm not sure, but I doubt it.Thanks for the honesty! Sometimes that's just the way it is. Appreciate that you like the platform enough to try to make it work anyhow. We take that really seriously
Yeah of course! Thanks for the updates! Regardless if I have to, I'll fork and figure out a hack to support the on premise in the meantime while I wait for the open source release. Thanks for the help
One last thing will the open source backend be everything to support what convex cloud right now (db, crons, functions, etc.) does maybe minus the cloud console and stages etc.
we haven't decided this completely yet, but yes, we're leaning toward turning most things on.
Cool good to know. Thanks for keeping me in the loop on this