khromov
khromov3y ago

GDPR compliance?

Hi! I can't find anything in the docs about GDPR compliance. For many european companies, it's a requirement that their data is housed in the EU and for certain companies it's also a requirement that their data never crosses over into the US. Is Convex unsuitable for such use cases?
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jamwt
jamwt3y ago
Hi @khromov. Good question. unfortunately, convex is not yet GDPR compliant. our near-term focus is SOC2. we don't yet have a timeline on GDPR, but we'll re-assess our next compliance milestones to take on once SOC2 is done
khromov
khromovOP3y ago
Thanks for the info!
whoami
whoami3y ago
When will SOC2 be completed?
jamwt
jamwt3y ago
No firm commitment yet, but likelihood is within 3 months or so.
Mitak
Mitak3y ago
One more vote for that, as we're listing convex.dev on our list of sub-processors of customer data.
jamwt
jamwt3y ago
@Mitak excellent. well, we have our vanta account set up, and we kicked off the process today! we'll be tackling controls one by one over the next couple of months and hope to get our audit done ASAP. so this is underway and we'll definitely update everyone as we make progress on compliance
khromov
khromovOP2y ago
Any updates here? The security page now says that AWS which Convex uses is "GDPR certified", and while this is great, I'm interested in my data not leaving the European Union. Maybe offer a EU zone (like AWS has)? https://www.convex.dev/security
jamwt
jamwt2y ago
Data placement outside the US is likely 2+ quarters away. GDPR verification for convex is much nearer. But convex itself collects essentially no PII. We know customers want data sovereignty controls for their own compliance, but it’s not currently on the Q1 roadmap, and will be iffy to make it in Q2.
khromov
khromovOP2y ago
Thanks for the update!
ampp
ampp2y ago
Our cybersecurity analyst is asking what is the list of EU-related privacy controls being baked into your architecture and who(or who will) perform the certification? And will you produce a map of NIST Special Publication 800-53Rev5 controls to GDPR. Its little early to ask as we really don't expect to need it ourselves at least till 2025.
stefano
stefano16mo ago
@Jamie is a DPA available to sign? A bit like Supabase does https://github.com/orgs/supabase/discussions/2341
GitHub
Is supabase GDPR compliant? · supabase · Discussion #2341
Wondering if I can already try supabase for a EU-based project?
David Alonso
David Alonso9mo ago
If we want to get certified on Vanta ourselves, it would be extremely useful for there to be a Convex integration with them (just like they do with e.g. Supabase and other BaaS providers). Are there any plans for this? I'm not sure if others have requested this
john0x
john0x3mo ago
@Jamie any updates on this? Cannot use Convex if it's not compliant 🥲
jamwt
jamwt3mo ago
Convex is gdpr compliant! But perhaps you need eu hosting? Or vanta integration?
john0x
john0x3mo ago
Yeah, we would need eu hosting of sensitive data and a signed DPA. Same as supabase: https://github.com/orgs/supabase/discussions/2341
GitHub
Is supabase GDPR compliant? · supabase · Discussion #2341
Wondering if I can already try supabase for a EU-based project?
Nobubble
Nobubble2mo ago
Are there any updates on this regarding EU hosting? Or would you need to self host to make that happen for now? Or is Convex now also certified under DPF and with a DPA we can still be GDPR complient eventhough hosting is in the US ?
jamwt
jamwt2mo ago
Technically GDPR compliance does not require EU hosting. However, some other compliances EU companies need do, especially in Germany. And some EU companies would prefer it for their own reasons, which we respect. our timeline is still Fall for the first non-us zone. it will likely be frankfurt
Nobubble
Nobubble2mo ago
That would be amazing, we are doing a healthcare platform in the netherlands so EU hosting is very important for MDR classification Looking forward to the non us zone, fall would work for our roadmap
eagleeye
eagleeye4w ago
Just want to second that. We are an EU-based climate tech startup with German customers. Most of them (often traditional companies) require data storage within the EU. Not guaranteeing this is currently the only reason we're not using Convex. Looking forward to this addition.
Luca
Luca2w ago
will it be possible to migrate an existing convex instance to the frankfurt zone when this launches in fall?
jamwt
jamwt2w ago
yes! but probably via export/import we won't offer any kind of online migration for awhile

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